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#1 19 Aug 2011 3:12 pm

Fyne Boat Kits
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National 12 kit prototype

The latest prototype to be taking shape in our shed is an innovative National 12.  This is a modern design which promises to be fast and will be sailed in a Winter Series this year.  We shall post more as it takes shape.

If you are interested in learning more please get in touch with us by clicking on this link: National 12.

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#2 19 Sep 2011 9:35 am

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Re: National 12 kit prototype

Open Transom.

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Under floor buoyancy.

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#3 7 Oct 2011 3:48 pm

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Re: National 12 kit prototype

Centreboard case

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King Plank

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We are not working on it full time but this shows the progress so far

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#4 8 Oct 2011 11:14 am

gooseneck
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Re: National 12 kit prototype

Fyne Boat Kits wrote:

The latest prototype to be taking shape in our shed is an innovative National 12.

Innovative indeed!  I have been poring over the pictures for ages this morning and can't make out what is going on with the chines.  Any chance of a side on view?

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#5 10 Oct 2011 10:27 am

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Re: National 12 kit prototype

Floor down


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Access to the centreboard pin.
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#6 12 Oct 2011 12:38 pm

Paul
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Re: National 12 kit prototype

gooseneck wrote:

..... Any chance of a side on view?

Gooseneck,

Our normal prototype shed is currently full of other boats being built so this is being built in the corner of the packing area and we cannot get far enough back to take the photograph you are asking for.  With luck we will be able to move it in a few days time and will then post a side view picture.



By the way I like your name and would be interested in seeing an avatar!

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#7 14 Oct 2011 3:16 pm

Paul
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Re: National 12 kit prototype

Deck on at lunchtime



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#8 3 Nov 2011 4:09 pm

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Re: National 12 kit prototype

Sorry about the delay but here are the pictures of the boat outside before sanding.

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#9 8 Nov 2011 7:25 pm

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Ah now I can see what you are up to- that curving chine(?) is an interesting idea. Will be fast but there is less buoyancy in the bow than I would expect.

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#10 10 Nov 2011 7:58 am

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Re: National 12 kit prototype

Thank you for your interest in this boat.

I hope that the following helps you to understand what I have tried to do Gooseneck:

  • By losing the chine into the shear line rather than the bow enables a fine entry to be created without hollows which is easier to form without frames.

  • There is a flat central plank forming the ‘t-beam’ spine  incorporating the centreboard case  which runs the length of the boat to encourage marginal planning and lift.

  • The craft has a tallish stem, the bottom of which is designed to be below the waterline to aid windward performance.

  • There is a fairly generous longitudinal rocker which lifts the bow when the crew weight is aft during fast downwind  sailing. 

  • This  National 12 is primarily designed for inland ‘round the cans’ club racing, the semi-circular centre-section providing good roll-tacking characteristics  and a low wetted area for light air performance.

  • The boat is designed with a double floor to be self-draining.

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#11 11 Nov 2011 3:38 pm

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Re: National 12 kit prototype

We estimate that it will take between 120 and 140 hours to build this boat.

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#12 6 Jan 2012 5:25 pm

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Re: National 12 kit prototype

Some photographs of the painted and varnished boat.

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#13 10 Jan 2012 12:39 pm

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Re: National 12 kit prototype

All National 12 boats which are raced have to be measured to ensure that they conform to the regulations.  The Kit boat  measures and will be raced for the first time this weekend.

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#14 17 Jan 2012 3:52 pm

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Re: National 12 kit prototype

Fully rigged and showing off the deck.

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#15 26 Jan 2012 4:50 pm

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Re: National 12 kit prototype

Any news or pictures?

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#16 30 Jan 2012 8:43 am

Paul
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A very cold and gloomy Sunday for the first launch.

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#17 8 Feb 2012 7:59 am

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Re: National 12 kit prototype

At slow speeds with a low transom I assume it must be a self draining boat.

Any idea of the price?

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#18 17 Feb 2012 1:38 pm

Paul
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Re: National 12 kit prototype

The price of the hull kit has been sent at £2,300 including VAT

We have not had any more feedback on the performance but will let you know as soon as it arrives.

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#19 6 Mar 2012 7:48 am

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Re: National 12 kit prototype

Latest Sailing Report


I was delighted with her performance.

Setting of downwind and placing her on the plane she didn’t drop her nose, or particularly raise it, sort of elevated herself throughout her waterline length amazing.

To windward she proved responsive and easy to control. The hull is quite powerful and forgiving. And yes the windward performance is scintillating.

Those watching thought she was ‘art on water’. I have a feeling however that  some of the more extreme width and narrow waterline hulls in the hands of experts may in certain conditions prove slightly faster  however as a generic high performance ‘forgiving’ hull she is most encouraging.

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#20 19 Mar 2012 6:24 pm

Paul
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Re: National 12 kit prototype

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She is a very forgiving and does all the right things (including not capsizing when the helm takes an excursion overboard).

Upwind she points higher and travels faster than the Lasers and that is the boat’s main strength. Downwind her sweet spot is in marginal planning conditions and she proves very stable on the plane.

The hull  buoyancy forward is just right with no hint of nose-diving and the self-draining is excellent . 

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#21 2 Apr 2012 8:17 am

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Re: National 12 kit prototype

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#22 4 Apr 2012 4:40 pm

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Re: National 12 kit prototype

The kit is now available to purchase via our website.

National 12 Kit

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